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Hey whats up, I want to ask your guys your opinion on this. I'm going to order a evo9 turbo (10.5 hot side), it will also be bolting on to a BR ported manifold. Here the thing, so I was online and found this dual port hot side on gruppe-s. I was thinking of bolting this onto the evo9 turbo once it comes. Do you guys this its a wise purchase or a total waste? If your wondering what I'll be running with this turbo its cams, alky injection, etc. Nothing ridiculous. So what you think?
Here the description-
Mitsubishi 10.5 Hot side (Dual port only)
The 10.5cm^2 hot side upgrades your 9.8cm^2 nozzle area to the much larger 10.5cm^2. This increased nozzle area is perfectly suited for high boost / high RPM duty. Significant increases in mid-range to top end power are seen with this addition of this turbine housing, and this is why this turbine housing is found on upgraded turbos such as the TME.
Our twin flapper 10.5cm^2 housing allows for a single release valve for each "scroll" of the turbine, and ultimately creates a larger flow area than the single flapper counter part. Theoretically this larger twin-flapper setup allows for greater boost control and a reduction in boost creep.
Well, I think you're confused. The dual port is the old style, and the IX turbo already has the new style single port. The single port is the IMPROVED version, so purchasing and installing an old dual port 10.5 would be a step backwards. The dual port wastegate is what the old 9.8s had and what the TME 6.5 had (10.5). As of 05, we all start getting single flapper 10.5 hotsides, which are the improved version.
I'm curious...what would make you think to buy that extra hotside when 1) your IX turbo comes with the best one possible, and 2) your CURRENT 05 turbo ALSO has the best one possible. So, you'll have 2 10.5 hotsides with updated single flapper wastegates in your possesion and were about to pay another $220 to get an older style one.
I'm not sure why they lied about the dual flapper providing larger flow area with greater boost blah blah blah when that is the old style that is outdated. Very, very disappointed that they would try to trick people like that.
!!!, Are you serious. wait so your saying my turbo already has a 10.5? I though it did 2 from the start but I've heard from so many people its not. well, I feel like a tard. Well I guess I mite still update to an evo9 turbo, I mean I got the 10.5 hot side on the 05 evo8 MR turbo like you said but the 9 has got a larger compressor housing then the 8 so that's pushing me towards it too. Still it will cost over 200 smackers, that's whats stopping me. Does it seem worth it to you guys?
Wait, wait, wait, I've never seen _ANYONE_ claim that the 05 doesn't have a 10.5. You have to show me where "so many people" have claimed this, because even on EvoM with all those fools, I've never seen someone try to make that claim. If that were the case, then we wouldn't have had 03-04 Evo owners upgrading to the 10.5 ever since the 05s came out in late 04. People had been upgrading to 10.5 hotsides well before anyone even knew what turbo was going to be on the IX. Then, to our surprise, the IX turbo not only got the 10.5, but it also got the larger compressor housing, which makes it capable of making another 20whp over the 05 turbo.
What do you mean by "still it will cost over 200 smackers"? Where can you get a IX turbo for anywhere near $200? Let me know, because I've been trying to find a used one for my 05 for months now with no luck. I could have paid $500, but I refuse when it's $700 new. Yes, a IX turbo is worth it, and since you already have an 05 w/10.5, you could turn around and sell your 05 (or just the hotside) for $200-300. That's what I plan on doing is selling the hotside off my used IX, or attaching it to my 05 cold side and selling the whole turbo, because my current hotside is already ported/coated by Buschur, so I'm keeping it.
I would buy the turbo from this kid that I know. He just bought an evo9 MR like about 3 weeks ago and he going a TURBO upgrade. I think hes in over his head. He's going to have all this lag and I don't think hes really added any good supporting mods. He's one of those guys who's first plans were to have tinted windows and a sound system. The guys RICH like you cant belief though. I don't think he knows much about the car but hey, from what we just discussed I don't seem to either . But It would buy it from him.
Please let me have it! You bastard! I've been searching for a used IX turbo for months like I said, but then people I know and help keep finding them locally somehow and snagging them before I can. I have to stop helping people so they'll stop taking my damn IX turbos!
lol, Hey there's still a chance I wont get it...but slim. If I don't get it I'll pass it on to you but I've got my eye set on it, sorry. Hey hes got stupid friends with money so I bet one of them has an evo. I'll keep an eye out for you if one of them has it or if I come across one online I'll PM you. Its the least I can do. You've helped me out ALOT with my car. Your like the only guy who answers my posts Hope you find one for a good deal.
Thanks.
hey, has anyone on this forum heard any thing or have had experiences with a EVO9 20G turbo? I'm planning on going with an evo9 turbo upgrade anyway but then I came across this. What you guys think of this? Will this be useless with my set up and cause lag or something. If you want I'll post my mod list. Basically what have you guys heard about this turbo? The only second though I'm having is that I'm getting a good deal on an evo9 turbo and with the other mods I'm planning I don't know if I'll be using this turbo to what its good for.
Ok, here we go. I can answer this. Aren't you glad you have EvoTuners as a resource?
Unfortunately, both turbos you referenced are the same, and therefore both are no good. What you see there is called the 20g-9-6. IT's a stock IX turbo with a 6-bladed 20g compressor wheel installed in place of the stock 16g wheel. Those are no better than a regular stock IX turbo, and some would argue they are worse, because they have to run more boost to make the same power. However, they CAN make a little more power at the extreme edge of tuning and boost meaning you'd have to run race gas or alky constantly with the boost cranked to 28psi with injectors, big cams, FMIC, etc etc and then you'd see gains over the stocker.
On the flip side, there is also a 20g-9-5 that Buschur sells, and it is the same deal but with a 5-bladed 20g wheel. This one, incidentally, works much better than the 20g-9-6, and a little better than the regular IX. At the same boost levels on pump gas, it will make a little more power, but it really shines when running high boost on alky or race gas. You could definitely make great power with the 20g-9-5 from Buschur to the tune of 400-430whp (on alky).
Do that and tell your friend to sell me his IX turbo.
2- I saw a few videos buy you on you tube. It showed that you have your radio relocated, about that. Does accessing your radio getting annoying with it there?
So if I every get in contact with this guy I'll see if he can still sell me the turbo and try to get it for you.
Thanks.
1) Yes, that's the right one. Buschur only sells the 5-blade. Notice that price is if you send in a stock IX as a core.
2) Yes, the RS is the one. Buschur does sell it, but it's not the one you linked from his site. The RS has an adjustable knob on top as you can see on the Forge website, and it has no springs that you need to switch in or out. Do not get the one for $169 from BR - it is no good.
3) No, no problem to get to the radio at all. It was a problem trying to read my MR gauges down there, though, so I did the swap - required no purchases or changes, since it's a direct swap on Evos that came stock with the gauge package.
4) No, I'll just put my ported/coated hotside onto the IX, naturally. Then, I'll take the IX hotside and mate it to my 05 turbo core and sell the whole thing as one unit.
You can just order the 20g-9-5 and have them port/coat the hotside before sending it to you. No need to order it, ship it, take it apart, then ship the hotside back, get it ported/coated, ship it again, then put it back together and install. Have them do it all before you ever get it, then sell your stock turbo for 250-300 or so.
You doing this for sure now? If so, get that IX turbo for me or get me in touch with him. I need it ASAP! =P
Ya, I think it will go good with my set up. I'm not going to do anything more then this because then that seems like too much and I'll start worrying about internals. I'll try to get this for you. I'm not sure if he ordered his turbo yet or if he even decided. I haven't seen this guy for awhile so I don't want to keep you hanging and have you pass up a good deal. I'll tell him and have him try to contact you as soon as I can.
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. But It would buy it from him.
