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Old 11-11-2006, 12:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Upgrading EVO IX

Hi my name is Dan and I have a Buschur Racing 350 EVO IX. I've done my research and have included all the performance parts I am looking to put on to my car for now. The question I have is most websites have all parts listed for EVO VIII's and I need to know exactly what I can purchase and install fine without having to send the item back or modify it. So please give me all the knowledge you have on this subject. Thanks...
I am looking for a good daily driver in the summer and good track car.

Engine:
-Short-ram Intake
-3in SS Down pipe
-3in test pipe
-Greddy Type RS Blowoff Valve
-Hard 2.5in lower intercooler piping
-Buschur Racing Intercooler
-GSC Exhaust/Intake Cams 280/270
-Greddy Oil Catch Can
-Greddy Timing Belt
-ARP Headstuds
-Cometic Headgasket
-Silicone Coolant Hoses

Transmission:
-ACT 2600 Clutch
-ACT Streetlite Flywheel
-SS Clutch Line
-Syn Tranny Fluid
-Short Throw Shifter
-Shifter Bushings and Underhood Bushings
-OEM EVO Shifter Retainer


Suspension/Brakes:
-Lowering Springs
-SS Brake Lines
-Syn DOT 3-4 Brake Fluid

Fuel:
-Walbro 255lph fuel pump
-650cc Injectors
-S-AFC Fuel Controller
-Adj Fuel Pressure Regulator Buschur

Electronics/Gauges:
-AEM Wideband Gauge and o2 Sensor
-Innovate o2 Bung and Plug Kit
-Blitz DCIV Turbo Timer w/ Harness
-S-AFC Plug and Play Harness
-Boost Gauge
-Hallman RX Manual Boost Controller
-Steering Column Dual Gauge Pod
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Old 11-11-2006, 01:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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They aren't specific to IXs- it's just that when those parts were released, there was only an Evo VIII available. Many IX owners make this same mistake of thinking the part has to say that's its made specifically for the Evo IX. There are very few parts that only work on the IX. The most common two are cams and the lower intercooler pipe, and you already have those listed properly (BR LICP and GSC 280/272 IX cams).

- You need a cat-back
- No need for a "short ram intake"
- Very poor choice of BOV - it's not even as good as your stocker (strange choice there)
- Why in the world would you get injectors and an SAFC? Very poor decision if you do that. Plus, you're in NJ - why would you get the idea to do injectors+SAFC on a IX? That usually only happens on SoCal. SAFC has not even 1/10th the ability of a flash and will cost more
- No need for an AFPR
- There is no ACT 2600 for the Evo
- I do not recommend the ACT HDSS (this is what you meant to say, and it's a 2900# pressure plate, not 2600)
- Do not change the transmission fluid from OEM unless you're putting in NEO RHD, which is extremely expensive.

The rest looks alright, but you could make your car much faster and better for less money than you intend to spend here.


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Old 11-11-2006, 01:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Ok thanks for all the info. I live in Ohio, profile must be messed up, but I have a BR350 EVO IX.

BR 2.5" Mandrel Bent Stainless Steel Downpipe
BR 3" Mandrel Bent Stainless Steel Catback Exhaust
BR Air Filter Kit
Oil Pan Heat Shield
BR Polished Exhaust Manifold Heatshield
BR Spark Plug Cover
BR 2.5" Upper Intercooler Pipe w/ Upgraded 1G BOV
BR Mini Battery Kit
Ported Exhaust Manifold
Ported Turbine Housing
Ported 02 Housing

Comes stock on my Evo. I'm just looking to upgrade from here with the performance parts I listed and eventually go big turbo. Thats the only reason I was looking to do fuel upgrades now. So should I wait till I actually purchase the big turbo to do so. Cuz according to Buschur's website they have stages to be purchased and installed before the turbo upgrade.
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Old 11-11-2006, 02:18 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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But your fuel upgrades are only a fuel pump and 650cc injectors and an AFPR. The fuel pump is a given and should be done, but 650s would have to be upgraded AGAIN when you do the big turbo, because they're too small. They also are no use or help on the stock turbo, so it's a lose-lose situation. The AFPR will do nothing, and you may not want that with your turbo upgrade. Many people run turbo upgrades without touching the FPR. Either way, you don't need to get it until you get your turbo and may not even need it then.

Yes, BR has stages that you do before a turbo upgrade, but the mods you listed aren't the same as those stages, and some of the parts in their stages are mainly for VIIIs, not IXs. IXs take a slightly different mod path.

I'm confused why you would take a BR350 and go this route. You are going with the wrong tuning choice, you're "upgrading" your BOV when you already paid for an aftermarket BOV that isn't as good as your stock one. Actually, the BOV you have now is a 10yo version of the one that came stock on your IX. You should find out where your stock BOV is and put it on - it's better than the 1G and better than the Greddy.

I didn't look at your profile - I just saw tri-state. I have no idea what that means - always thought it was NJ/NY/DE.


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Old 11-11-2006, 03:18 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Ok, I bought my car brand new from a dealer in Medina Ohio. They work along side with buschur racing and develop these cars. You'll see them on Buschurs website. BR330 and BR350. These are the way they come brand new from the dealer. So i have a modded 1g bov from buschur, thats what they put on the car along with the upgrades that I listed above in my 2nd post. So it seems like you are the top dog on here and know your EVO's well...what would be the best overall upgrades then for my EVO IX with the upgrades that I already have. The only reason I was taking that path was because I used to have a 2g eclipse turbo and those are some of the mods I had on it. So please tell me your opinion then so I can get the best for the money. Just want this to be done right...
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I know all about the BR cars - I am sponsored by Buschur. I know it came that way from the dealer, but those were designed when the IX was not available, and no one knew the IX would come with the awesome JDM MR BOV until after the fact. Hopefully, they gave you the parts that were removed so that you still have them. The stock BOV is the best you can use until you get a big turbo upgrade and start running big boost. Mods you need next include:

- BR 3" Test pipe
- BR LICP
- Forge UNOS MBC + boost gauge + pod
- Walbro 255
- GSC IX cams
- BR coated SS O2 housing
- Custom Dynoflash (or elsewhere, but definitely get a custom flash)

- Alky injection <- this will help to make huge power and torque but not everyone wants to do it. It will also be a necessary thing for your big turbo upgrade so that you can make good power with good spool on pump gas unless you intend to run your turbo upgrade on race gas 24/7. If you get this, then be sure to get the custom tune afterwards.

There's a bunch of other miscellaneous stuff in your list that you can get if you want, but I'm only focusing on actual power mods. For the clutch, again, if you plan to do a big turbo upgrade in the near future, then get a really nice clutch like the Exedy Twin HD. Do not get a single disk organic that will cause shifting problems and not hold the power of a big turbo. The Exedy Twin HD (cerametallic) will work great on the stock turbo and with a bigger turbo.


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Old 11-13-2006, 12:57 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Thanks for all your help...just needed some advice on the subject...ordering some of those parts this week...I'll keep ya posted and if I need any more help. Thanks again...
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Old 12-23-2006, 11:40 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Ok...been doin some more research and going to be purchasing new cams for my evo ix. Talked to a few people and they recommended the Cosworth cams for the evo ix over the GSC. Just wanted to get your opinions

The GSC would be 280/272 and the Cosworth cams would be 272/272
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Cam choices is something I have been reserching lately as well. I have my mind on the cosworth but I didn't know that GSC came out with a set rather than just one cam for either the in/ex. I was told by Mach V that the Cosworth set would work on the head and be a good match for the stock turbo, I am also concerned about idle quality because my Evo is my daily car.

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Ok, GSC and Cosworth are both viable cam sets for the IX. GSC came out with their set first, and then they improved them with the new S2 versions that supposedly make a lot more power. I don't think you should worry about 280 vs 272, because those numbers aren't really consistent across manufacturers. A set of 264 Revolvers is more aggressive than HKS or GSC 280s. Also, both Cosworth and GSC cam sets will be capable of a smooth or near-smooth idle with a proper flash - it's not a problem with our stock ECU as long as you go to a good tuner.


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Alright sounds good. I was talking to Buschur Racing and they recommended the Cosworth over the GSC. Also, I was going to upgrade with the Buschur Valve springs and retainers set. Buschur will be doing all the tuning to the evo. Mine is also a daily driver, but Cosworth has 272/272 and the GSC cams come in 280/272 and 280/280. So what would be the better overall cam for a daily driver with stock turbo, eventually going to big turbo but have good power throughout the rpm range? Thanks
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I think that the Cosworth cams are higher lift than the same duration HKS cams for the EVO VIII and I am making around 500 wheel HP now on Buschurs dyno using HKS 272's.... so I think your best choice would be the cosworth 272's.

You will love how the car performes with a good set of cams and a great tune!

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Old 12-24-2006, 10:10 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Thanks FOURDOOR...I think thats what im going to do. Got all my christmas money together....MERRY Christmas by the way guys! Thanks again for the help.
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