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Old 06-16-2007, 09:06 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Hmm, ok. I only asked cause I've seen some fouled plugs that ran ok at idle but broke up everywhere else, even partial boost.
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That can happen, too.


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Old 06-17-2007, 12:16 PM   #18 (permalink)
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i'm going to head up to boulder in an hour to see if brp can help me out. wish me luck
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Old 06-17-2007, 04:12 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Haole just came by, i couldn't do a boost leak test because i didn't have the right size coupler for his turbo. cant really tell what is wrong but its kinda like he said, when he rolls into boost and gets to about 10psi (around 4800rpms) his car just feels like its hitting rev limiter, its like as if he was sitting there on his "two step" about to launch, except his car is already moving. if he is just at partial throttle he can go all the way to red line as long as he doesnt go wot. car idles, drives and sounds perfect as long as he doesnt go wot. i have had a big boost leak before but it didnt feel anything like this, when i had a leak my car just had a hard time building boost, his car just feels like his rev limiter is set to 4800rpm's, so he builds 10psi's and then it starts to bounce of the limiter (4800rpm's)

if i got the story right Justin installed the turbo but he did not get a chance to tune it right away, sometime after that he was in a small accident and had to get a new FMIC. i guess he had the body shop instal the FMIC as he was getting a couple other small things fixed because of the accident. this is when his car started not working right. sometime after this he tried running a bit of E85 and then things just got worse (the car was never tuned or set up for E85), after this the car started doing the above problem worse.

i guess justin tried to tune his car recently but just didnt have time to figure out what was wrong, so this is where Haole is at. he also said that he has probably had about 8-10 tanks of 91oct gas after he tried the E85.

car also had a few other small things like the radiator hose was leaking which i fixed by chaging the clamps. also there is a hose that comes out of the valve cover that goes back to the intake is not connected to the intake because there is nothing for it to connect into.
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wow, sounds like a mess. If the problem started after the accident + FMIC install, then that's when this thread needed to be made, and we needed all the info in order to help diagnose. It's good that he tried to get Justin's help, but that's a lot for someone to figure out just when trying to tune.

Also, running E85 without being tuned for E85? That's a very, very poor decision. Running E85 requires a LOT more fuel, so if he ran E85 with a 91oct tune, I fear what may have happened.


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Old 06-17-2007, 05:51 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Do you hear any knock? Are there any SES codes? This problem is too weird to really be diagnosed over the internet.
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Old 06-18-2007, 08:24 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I had a similar problem last year while tuning. My car ran great, but when you got on it, it would run like crap. My problem was the MAF wires near the ECU were plugged into each other but not very well. When the turbo would start to spool the wires would move apart a little and cause the car to run like shit because it was getting the wrong info from the maf. Maybe just check those wires to eliminate that problem.

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Old 06-18-2007, 02:13 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Ah, thanks for the reminder tobz....try cleaning your MAF. Any electrical or brake parts cleaner spray will work.
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Old 06-18-2007, 05:09 PM   #24 (permalink)
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wow, sounds like a mess. If the problem started after the accident + FMIC install, then that's when this thread needed to be made, and we needed all the info in order to help diagnose. It's good that he tried to get Justin's help, but that's a lot for someone to figure out just when trying to tune.
i didnt mention the new intercooler because i took the car to the Mitsubishi dealer and they replaced a coupler and 2 clamps on the LICP and said they were positive it wasnt a boost leak and didnt sound like one at all when they drove it. i'm not really sure what kind of test they did but i believed them. i'm taking the car back to them on Wed. so they can do a full diagnostic test.

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Also, running E85 without being tuned for E85? That's a very, very poor decision. Running E85 requires a LOT more fuel, so if he ran E85 with a 91oct tune, I fear what may have happened.
I mixed 3gal of e-85 with the rest 91oct but as soon as I heard the car make that noise I let off and didn't do it again until i had gone through about 3 more tanks of only 91. i didn't mention the e-85 in the beginning because i called Buschur and they said that shouldn't have affected anything since it was doing that before. what do you think happen Warrtalon?
I'll check the MAF connections Tobz but Street Concepts swapped a MAF from another '05 and it didnt help.

thanks for all your suggestions/help everyone i really want to get this fixed
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Old 06-18-2007, 07:24 PM   #25 (permalink)
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brp, that hose that comes out of the valve cover and into the intake is for PCV. Venting it to atmosphere will not hurt anything nor cause the car to run any different.

Haole, was it just the turbo and intercooler that were installed/reinstalled, or did you have any of your other parts installed at the same time, i.e. your injectors?
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Old 06-18-2007, 07:41 PM   #26 (permalink)
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they replaced only the intercooler and put in a koyo radiator. the shop told me that they didnt touch anything else including the turbo which is why this is so strange.
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Old 06-18-2007, 08:29 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Well what I meant to say is, One of my wires was loose under the ecu. The wire was the wire going into the ecu from the maf. The connection was loose and caused the car stublme like yours. Did Justin log this event?
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Old 06-18-2007, 08:34 PM   #28 (permalink)
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ok i'll check the ecu wires, thanks. i'm not sure if Justin logged it i'll send him a pm.
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Old 06-20-2007, 03:39 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Update

I took the car to Mitsubishi and they hooked it to their diagnostic equipment.

1st problem - MAF was reporting back that there was way too much airflow going through it.
2nd problem - The reason for the sudden loss of power was because the injectors were shutting off at 10psi maybe due to the MAF going crazy i don't know.
There were a few codes that they pulled but I can't remember what they were.

Anyway they hooked up new ignition coils(something that Warrtalon mentioned) and the car now boosts to 14psi not quite there but an improvement. They will be replacing the sparkplugs again and try a different BOV. I have a Forge in there now that's less than a year old but maybe it's defective. I also ordered a tactrix cable and will DL the software so i can see what's going on with the computer. Don't worry i don't plan on tuning it myself just observing.

I'll let you know what I hear tomorrow.
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Old 06-25-2007, 07:36 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Interesting. Keep us up to date.
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