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Old 06-26-2007, 07:16 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Has a date been set for this yet? I'm considering having Justin build me a pump gas map.
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Old 06-26-2007, 07:32 PM   #32 (permalink)
 
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100% on Jack @ JacksTransmissions.com. He didn't build mine, since Shep did, but he did install it and help me a lot with figuring out previous damage. If and when I build my motor, I will let Jack do it.


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Old 06-26-2007, 07:37 PM   #33 (permalink)
 
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That still seems extrememly low. And what is this dyno compared to to call it "low reading"? Comparing dyno's is impossible. No two dynos are alike, even same models.

In this case, yes, the DynoDynamics at Super Rupair reads very low just like all other proper DynoDynamics. They read about the same as the Buschur MD. Dynojets read much higher than DDs, but it also depends on correction factor.

Nicksalerno above said his friend put down 485 uncorrected at Super Rupair. HOWEVER, they use a STANDARD 1.15 CF at Super Rupair for turbo'd cars, and people refer to that as "uncorrected" quite often. The reason is because the CF calculated by the weather station is usually around 1.22-1.26 depending on the weather. Harvey realizes that is way too high for turbo'd cars, so he puts it at 1.15 as standard.

485 FULLY UNCORRECTED (1.00) up here on a DD would be about like 550 on a Dynojet uncorrected, which is amazing at this altitude. That would then be 600+ whp on a Dynojet at sea level easily. Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure that 485 "uncorrected" was with a 1.15 CF. 11.6 is already weak for 485 on a Dynojet, and ET doesn't really show the true power anyway - it's trap speed that tells the tale.


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Old 06-26-2007, 08:41 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I'm returning from my trip this Thursday.. I'm still not aware (or have been formally contacted) about a specific date. Once you guys confirm on a date I'll be sure I'm off and there to hack away at the keyboard.

Also note, that when I'm at there at Super-Rupair I'm the one who loads the car on the dyno and sets up the computer. Let it be known here I'll use a forced correction factor of 1.15 unless specificly asked for something else. I'll also be the one operating the dyno. I'm able to get a discounted rate since I've been trained to operate the dyno and I'm not tying up their staff w/ having to operate the equipment.
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:06 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Apprantly Johns car still requires some work...so maybe he's not out?

I'm in as long as the date doesn't clash with my work schedule.
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Old 06-27-2007, 11:12 AM   #36 (permalink)
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I'm in too. I got a good set of mods (I think) to be installed within the next weekend or two, so I'm gonna be in need of a tune.
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Apprantly Johns car still requires some work...so maybe he's not out?

I'm in as long as the date doesn't clash with my work schedule.
Yeah... I wasn't able to get it completely dialed in for driveability/idle conditions. Power tuning is pretty much complete with the exception of leaning it out just a tad more. I'm not sure if he'll be able to attend, but I'm working with him offline with corrections for his map.
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Old 06-27-2007, 01:22 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I am in: new mods in place and I deff need a tune to get the car up to speed
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Old 06-27-2007, 01:30 PM   #39 (permalink)
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I am in: new mods in place and I deff need a tune to get the car up to speed
Awesome. We should really be able to keep the dyno costs minimal for everyone with the ammount of people we have. I'll probably do a racegas map for mine. It's already making 345ft/lbs (DD @ 1.15) on 23psi and pump w/ the Cosworth Cams. But I'm excited to see what I can do with some more boost and a racegas map...

BTW: I love tuning IX's. They respond so well.
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Jeez, Justin, yours is doing 345 on pump? I only put down 324 with the IX turbo and alky @ 26psi. Same dyno type and similar CF (1.14). I would have thought my IX turbo and the extra boost on alky would at least be equal to you on pump gas. Bah. Back at 300whp on the same dyno, I ran my 12.3s and 109-110, so with my extra 24, I should be capable of 12.1s and 111-112. That puts you in the 113-114 range


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Old 06-27-2007, 02:13 PM   #41 (permalink)
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And the shocking thing is my mod list..

Blitz Drop-In (Dry element filter)
Nisei IC Pipes (Upper/Lower)
AMS FMIC
AMS 3" TBE (Catless)
Cosworth IX Camshafts w/ Unorthodox Racing Adj. Gear on exhaust cam
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Walbro Fuel Pump
My Flash

I've got a ported manifold, turbine housing, and a SS 02 that I need to install. As well as some other goodies (non-power stuff). But I'm really excited to see what I can pump out on this stock turbo.
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Typically, with those mods, you'd be making this same power at sea level - maybe a 10-15 more at most. No idea how you're making the same power at this altitude. Sheesh.


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Old 06-27-2007, 02:19 PM   #43 (permalink)
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I'd like to think me tuning my own car has a small part in it, but maybe I'm just giving myself too much credit, and it's really just the car?
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Old 06-27-2007, 02:29 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Justin's car is mean that's for sure. He gives me a run for my money up until we get into 4th gear but then I start pulling away do the higher RPM pumping efficiency of the 50 trim.

BTW, Justin I heard you were stretching the truth on our little race session last weekend
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Eventually, I'll have you do some track tuning for me at Bandimere. It's about the only time we'll be able to be in the same place without hassle. I haven't been retuned for the IX yet, and I don't have a full race map either.


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