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Old 09-20-2007, 07:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Intake opinion

So I'm completely stock right now and I'm gonna upgrade my intake, IC piping, and BOV. I've heard good things about the Injen intake and IC piping but I'm wondering what you all think. Price isn't a huge concern, mostly I just want to be able to run an HKS SSQV BOV cause I personally like the sound and design. Only reason I mention that I'd like to be able to run that is because according to a few sites you can't run the SSQV on an MR... So whatever intake setup I do go with, I'd like it to relocate the BOV spot enough to be able to run the SSQV. (I'm in an 05 VIII MR)

What do you guys think? I'm open to different systems and even different BOV's, but if I went with something else I'd want it to be for performance proven reasons, not just someone's opinion of a certain brand or whatever. Justin and Warrtalon, I'm really interested in your opinions because it seems you have the most experience.

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EDIT: Probably going to be running the Injen setup with the Forge RS BOV now. What do you think?
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Old 09-20-2007, 09:14 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Stay away from the SSQV, I as well as others have learned there leason on using that BOV...Justin and Warrtalon will tell you the same thing. The Forge RS is a great BOV, one of the best for our cars and staying recirculated, you won't lose any performance, plus eveyone and there dog has a SSQV.

Intake wise, there is a few options like Buschur, AMS.....stay away from the K&N intake. Personaly, don't like how the Injen looks but thats up to you. I went with a small battery and had custom IC piping made to go under my intake.


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Yeah, I was hearing that about the SSQV. Thanks for the input! I'm pretty sure I'll go with the Forge RS and Injen tubing then. I like the Injen setup cause it keeps everything close to stock location to allow other mods to fit easily.

Thinking about throwing on an MBC too. Good mod to add at this stage do you think?!
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Yeah, I was hearing that about the SSQV. Thanks for the input! I'm pretty sure I'll go with the Forge RS and Injen tubing then. I like the Injen setup cause it keeps everything close to stock location to allow other mods to fit easily.

Thinking about throwing on an MBC too. Good mod to add at this stage do you think?!
That and a 255 fp make sure you get a fuel pump
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That and a 255 fp make sure you get a fuel pump
Good call. It's probably about the right time to throw that on there if I'll be increasing boost.
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If you don't already have one, I'd do a aftermarket boost gauge with the fuel pump and MBC if you do it.

Done anything exhaust wise yet?


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If you don't already have one, I'd do a aftermarket boost gauge with the fuel pump and MBC if you do it.

Done anything exhaust wise yet?
I have the MR so I do have a boost gauge, but it's not in PSI as you probably know. And I'm fine doing some number conversions while tuning the MBC to I'm thinking 22 psi peak.


So, I think I'm going to do a bigger upgrade than I originally planned (Go figure ) here's what I'm thinking:

Injen Intake + LIC + UIC Piping
Hallman Pro MBC
Forge RS BOV
Walbro 255
Megan Racing 3" TBE
And of course a reflash!


Sound good or what?! Anything I'm forgetting that I should be adding for sure in here?

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Do some research on the Megan ex manifold.. a lot of people have had cracking problems with them. Buschur also did a test and found that a ported stock manifold makes more power than most of the other options out there. If I remember correctly, the only thing that made more power was the Full-Race manifold (~$900).
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Do some research on the Megan ex manifold.. a lot of people have had cracking problems with them. Buschur also did a test and found that a ported stock manifold makes more power than most of the other options out there. If I remember correctly, the only thing that made more power was the Full-Race manifold (~$900).
Good to know! And yeah, after looking into it a bit, I think I'ma drop the cams and E-mani off there. I'll wait a little while to do those.
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^Yeah, skip the Megan manifold and just get a ported and coated stocker, best bang for the buck, that's what I just did. Also, do an o2 housing at the same time as the manifold to get the full benefit from them. And yes cams would probably be your next thing, same for me!


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^Yeah, skip the Megan manifold and just get a ported and coated stocker, best bang for the buck, that's what I just did. Also, do an o2 housing at the same time as the manifold to get the full benefit from them. And yes cams would probably be your next thing, same for me!
http://www.lancershop.com/customer/home.php?cat=83
That is what I am trying to do. Just to give you an idea. But I am buying the brands that are working not what this site tells me to order. The stages are in a good order tho in my opinion.


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Old 09-20-2007, 12:39 PM   #12 (permalink)
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The Injen pipes have had some issues with proper fitment. I've seen a set that fit fine and another set that rubbed the underside of the hood.

Some people may argue that it's pointless to replace the stock piping if you're not going to short route it but I disagree. The upper pipe doesn't provide any substantial gains by shortening the length. The benifit comes from getting rid of the stock couplers that are weak and can balloon under boost.

My personal opinion I'd go with the Nesei lower and upper pipe with a small battery kit. This will remove weight from the front of your car and will make it a lot easier to work around under the hood.

Forge RS is a good BOV but for the absolute best driveability I'd stay with the stock 9 diverter valve. Use the RS when you need higher than stock boost levels. That is what Justin and I both do.


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BAMBAM, I agree with you. Those stages are set up pretty well. In-fact, after looking at that, the only thing I need to do to complete stage 2 from what I'm doing is add the colder sparkies =P Don't need the fuel controller yet since I'll just be reflashing the stock ECU. And if I ever decide to go any farther I'll probably grab the AMS EMS when I add cams, gears, injectors and a new rail.

Evolvd, I'll definitely keep that in mind. Though I am in an VIII not a IX. Were they running the same valve with the differences in turbo housings? I honestly don't know. Either way, I will be adding 3-4 lbs of boost with the MBC so I'll probably just grab the Forge RS anyway. My long term plans do include farther upgrading so I'd need it then.
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O yea make sure you Dyno it as it sets bone stock, So you know what each gain you get. It is help full. I made the mistake of not doing it and now I too far in to what I stared at.


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Old 09-20-2007, 01:23 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I installed the Injen pipes kit but had problems with the fitment. I return the kit and installed the factory one.Thats only my experience.
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