So, I found out yesterday that the Mitsu regional rep declined to authorize a warranty tire replacement, despite the fact that the factory aligment is to blame for the extreme tire wear. I'm pretty disappointed. The service manager at the dealership (NOT the dealer from which we purchased the car...) still seems willing to help though...he said he'll continue pushing the issue for us, so I'm hoping we'll have new Advans and an aligment within the next week.
Warrtalon, Rex Tire mentioned "another evo" that they've worked on and set up for auto-x (according to them). Would that be yours, by any chance? If so, I'm wondering if you've found any problems with their Hunter machine. The service manager at the dealership just couldn't accept the caster values on the printout I gave him from Rex, and he went so far as to say that Rex Tire's Hunter machine must have been setup incorrectly...I'm not buying it, personally, but I thought I'd ask you.
In any case, I'm going to let the dealership bill the warranty aligment, regardless of whether-or-not they get approval to do the tires, because they've been sincere in the desire to help. After that, I'll probably go have it checked out with Rex Tire's newer equipment. Now, I wanted to ask what caster and camber values everyone is going with on your Evo's for the best cornering...I've been experiencing some understeer through slow turns lately, though I'm sure that just bringing in the Toe will alleviate some of that. Any recommendations would be helpful.
Anywho, I'll learn what Mitsu's final decision is on my tires within a week...I hope they don't make me pay for a new set at 5k miles.
Last edited by Kdogg71; 04-11-2007 at 09:12 AM.
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Rex has done a great job and always gotten my alignment specs right where I wanted them. I never had them adjust caster - just F/R camber and F/R toe, but the caster was always where it should be.
I've then gone and whooped ass when racing after those alignments, so I don't think there's any problem. I've had no abnormal tire wear (used my Advans for 13k with lots of racing, and I still sold them for $150 at that mileage) and no pulling to the right or left.
I'm probably the Evo they were referring to. I really like the guy who operates the alignment machine - he's always patient and lets me hang out during the alignment.
I can't help you with caster settings (those are not normally touched), but if you want to go mildly aggressive with your stock suspension, then do this:
Camber:
-2.0F / -0.5R
Toe:
0 all around
These are the settings I used for racing when on the stock suspension.
Castor is not adjustable anyway on the stock suspension. Most camber plates do not offer adjustment either. However it's possible some are "offset" from the OEM upper plates that a change in castor is possible. To my knowledge the only castor adjustable plates are the Ground Control plates.
Rex has done a great job and always gotten my alignment specs right where I wanted them. I never had them adjust caster - just F/R camber and F/R toe, but the caster was always where it should be.
I've then gone and whooped ass when racing after those alignments, so I don't think there's any problem. I've had no abnormal tire wear (used my Advans for 13k with lots of racing, and I still sold them for $150 at that mileage) and no pulling to the right or left.
I'm probably the Evo they were referring to. I really like the guy who operates the alignment machine - he's always patient and lets me hang out during the alignment.
I can't help you with caster settings (those are not normally touched), but if you want to go mildly aggressive with your stock suspension, then do this:
Camber:
-2.0F / -0.5R
Toe:
0 all around
These are the settings I used for racing when on the stock suspension.
Warrtalon,
When you say you used these settings when you were racing, would you still recommend them for a car that's mostly street driven? While I hope to get out to the track this summer, most of my driving at this point is just finding nice twisty backroads on the weekends (the car is not a daily driver).
I'm having an alignment done next week at work and I want to give them the settings to dial in.
Geese, my Evo has always been daily driven. Those settings are for a street car while giving you the most performance you can get for racing while still on the stock suspension. If yours is not daily driven, then you could try to go more aggressive with some toe-out and more rear camber maybe.
Thanks, but I think I'll stick with this set-up for now. Until I get some high-performance driving classes under my belt, I don't think it would be wise to set the car up to be too aggressive.
There's nothing you can do on the stock suspension that is "too aggressive," so don't worry. It's still very tame, but better than the factory settings. To this day, I still have not had one driving class or school, so keep that in mind. I sure would like to get some training, but it hasn't happened so far.
yea driving schools are so expensive. i just ride along with the more experienced guys or they ride along with me and yell at me the whole time on what i should be doing. its overwhelming at the time but as the day goes on i understand more and more of what they say. thats the best and cheapest way to learn imo.
Ok, so its been a little while since I checked in here. I have some new information on my tire situation...
The service manager down at the Mitsu dealer said that he was finally told not to do the alignment OR the tires under warranty...blah. He said he would eat the alignment, though, but I think I'm just going to get Rex Tire here in the Springs to do an alignment when they put on my Falken RT-615's!!! Yeah, the service manager at the dealer said I could open some sort of appeal case to keep fighting, but the inside row of tread on my Advans is now way past gone...it just can't wait anymore.
So, yeah...we're getting new tires and an alignment, and I'm pretty excited. I wish my stock tires would've lasted longer, and I wish that Mitsu would take responsibility for their mistake, but oh well...life goes on.
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Mitsu not helping much re: tires
Yeah, the service manager at the dealer said I could open some sort of appeal case to keep fighting, but the inside row of tread on my Advans is now way past gone...it just can't wait anymore.
