What to loose the gap between my wheels and wheel well. I'm only looking to go 1.85inch in the front and .85 in the rear. What are the best springs to get for this purpose?
If you go with springs, stay away from Tein. I've heard people have good luck with Tanabe, Swift, Work, but if can get coilovers, you won't be dissapointed.
Thanks for the info fellas. I'm with coilovers for sure sometime down the road. Next step is a forge MBC and a boost gauge. I think that will do it for me as far as performance mods. Not wanting too much just enough to really enjoy the best car on the street hands down.
Thanks for the info fellas. I'm with coilovers for sure sometime down the road. Next step is a forge MBC and a boost gauge. I think that will do it for me as far as performance mods. Not wanting too much just enough to really enjoy the best car on the street hands down.
Yep, that should be great as long as you include the tune - custom flash from Justin would be great.
Just curious, what are the "bad" side effects of TEINs?
First of all, they mess up the suspension dynamics by going to low, which effectively reduces handling instead of improving it. Also, they blow the stock shocks.
First of all, they mess up the suspension dynamics by going to low, which effectively reduces handling instead of improving it. Also, they blow the stock shocks.
First of all, they mess up the suspension dynamics by going to low, which effectively reduces handling instead of improving it. Also, they blow the stock shocks.
I'm not sure I understand this comment. Is this specific to Tien's offerings for the Evo?
The Eibach Pro Kit I have on now lowers my Eclipse more than the Tien Hi-Techs I'll soon be swapping in.
(1.5 inches vs. ~1 inch)
Also, ANY lowering spring should be paired with the proper aftermarket shock/strut. OEM ones simply don't offer the proper dampening, and are not built for travel within that lower range. They'll blow regardless of brand of spring.
I'm not sure I understand this comment. Is this specific to Tien's offerings for the Evo?
The Eibach Pro Kit I have on now lowers my Eclipse more than the Tien Hi-Techs I'll soon be swapping in.
(1.5 inches vs. ~1 inch)
Also, ANY lowering spring should be paired with the proper aftermarket shock/strut. OEM ones simply don't offer the proper dampening, and are not built for travel within that lower range. They'll blow regardless of brand of spring.
Yes, everything on here is specific to Evos, thus the name EvoTuners. Teins are horrid, cheap springs that have no business on an Evo. They do not go with the stock KYBs or the stock Bilsteins.
What Eibachs and Teins do on your 3G are not particularly relevant, but regardless of the difference in ride height each provides for you, do you have any comment about the resultant handling? On an Evo, people THINK the handling is improved based on seat of the pants, but when it comes to lap times, the opposite is true. Have you raced the 3G before and after making suspension changes by chance?
No, the shocks on the Evo will not blow regardless of the brand of spring. There are a few specific springs built to work better with the KYBs and yet others built specifically to go with the Bilsteins (Espelir GT, Robispec, Swift, Works). I shudder at the name "lowering springs," because that is not the point of springs. The point is to improve performance, but most people just get them for lowering purposes and thus ruin the car for the sake of looks. Again, I'm referring strictly to the Evo - not sure if it's the same with other cars.
Oh boy how do I word this without getting chastised again for calling out someone....
NOT EVERYONE BUYS MODS FOR RACING!!! There, was that PC enough?
I have the Hotchkiss springs and love them. My struts are the same ones that were on the car 63000 miles ago when I bought it new. Guess what, they are still good. My buddy Jason has the Tein's on his car and has had them for 25000 miles, and his struts ARE NOT BLOWN.
What point am I making? I don't race my car. Therefore I could give a damn about how someone thinks they hurt my performance. Adding a 340 gram shift knob is more weight then the stock one so maybe that hurts performance too? Anyways, don't believe all the hype. Many springs out there are designed to work with the stock struts. You only "blow" struts by compressing them beyond the physical limits of the strut. My Hotchkiss springs came with stiffer bump stops but I've NEVER bounced off of them in any turn no matter how hard I've taken it. And up here in Cheyenne the roads have frost heaves all over the place and my suspension still hasn't bottomed out.
So I'll say this once again...don't believe everyone's word of mouth. Ask for first hand experience. I'm willing to bet that somone in this thread has absolutely no first hand experience with Tein or Hotchkiss.
And yet there are tons and tons of people who HAVE blown their shocks with the Teins. I have not see anyone talk about Hotchkis springs - they aren't normally used.
I also don't why you have to race the car to want it to perform well. If you don't care how it handles, then you could get an SRT-4 and blow away people on the highway all the time for much less money. If you DO care that the Evo handles well, then I would think you'd do things that improve the handling, not reduce it. It's simply a matter of choosing the right parts and spending wisely. You don't have to get a $3k suspension setup like mine for the Evo to handle better than stock and not ride high like a monster truck. You can spend much less and not reduce performance just for the sake of looks.
Swift Lowering Springs for EVO
These springs are designed uniquely for each application. The goal for these springs is to maximize the handling performance. The center of gravity is lowered but not to the point where it causes a negative effect with the stock geometry of the suspension. While some springs are designed to lower the car, Swifts are designed to maximize the performance without sacrificing the comfort.
269 lbs/in front. 319 lbs/in rear. 35mm drop front. 20mm drop rear.
Price: $276.75
The handling of my evo is sick and wouldn't give it up for anything. Found these sprins on racecompengineering.
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