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Old 12-05-2006, 07:11 AM   #16 (permalink)
 
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The TME doesn't make more power than your stock turbo...at most maybe 10-15whp. The purpose of the TME is for quicker spool and broader mid-range due to its Titanium/Aluminide internals. It's unlikely to make 400whp - when did you get the idea to do a TME?


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Old 12-06-2006, 06:59 PM   #17 (permalink)
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ouhh ok, i got the idea from this site i saw cuz when i reserched on it and it said that with the tme i would have quicker spool and with supporting mods like fuel system i could boost at 26 27 psi and possibly generate about 400 or if not more!! but what i wanna know is i do go with a tme setup what is the max boost i could go given that i get fuel injectors super afc fuel pump lager intercooler turbo manifold and outlet pipe with a utec piggyback and also a cams and cam gears cuz i wanna maintain the quick spool of my turbo but i would like to make about 400 or more u know 450 would be my max on power cuz i dnt need anything after that so if it isnt the tme what other turbo can i go with that would give me that same power with maintaining the quick spool responce??
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Old 12-06-2006, 07:27 PM   #18 (permalink)
 
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*sigh* You're just going off the deep end now. I keep saying how you need to come back to reality and chill out on this whole 400whp thing, because you don't even yet understand the basics of BASICS. When did a UTEC enter the picture? You just asked me how much you can boost on a big list of mods that included an SAFC and UTEC, both of which are piggyback tuning devices, and NEITHER of which are anywhere near as good as your stock ECU using a flash. Why would you list _two_ piggybacks in one list, and why would you mention any piggyback after being informed that flashing the ECU is by far the best way to get tuned? I'm confused.

1) It makes no sense to ask how much you can boost. It doesn't matter...that is not what's important. It's not like you need to be able to go around telling people that you run XX psi. No, what's important is how much power you can make and how fast you can go on a given set of mods with the proper octane and tuning. The TME doesn't allow you to run any more boost than the stock turbo, because it IS a stock turbo. The TME is just a stock 05 turbo with lightened internals. It gets quicker spool and MAYBE can reach 400whp with maximum boost and every possible mod with very aggressive tuning. The fact you are asking for some max boost number tells me a lot, because that is not even what's important.

2) On top of wanting to know this max boost number, you don't understand what it takes to run max boost. You gave me all these mods that have nothing to do with how much boost you can run. All of those are supporting mods, yes, but they do not determine the boost level that is safe. The thing that determines boost level is OCTANE. You are in CA, so you only have 91oct, which severely limits your ability to run high boost. To overcome this, you have to either run race gas full time, or you have to get alcohol injection. With race gas or alky injection, you can then run whatever boost you want...I prefer to keep it at 26psi for some semblance of longevity, but if you want to try to run 28-30psi all the time, that's up to you. To make 400whp on a stock-type turbo, you do have to run that much boost even though it's only efficient to 25psi or so, and anything beyond that blows hot air that must be compensated through cooling of the air charge (alky) or less aggressive timing.

3) You don't need injectors on the stock turbo, ESPECIALLY if you run alky injection

4) Cam gears are not used to maintain quick spool - all they do is move the powerband around. They really aren't needed, but I certainly don't want you thinking they are for helping maintain spool. In case you meant cams, too, then those don't help with spool either. If anything, they may lessen spool depending on the duration you get.

5) 450? What in the world? When did that number cross your mind? The stock turbo (or TME) can't get near 450whp - you need a pretty sizable turbo upgrade for that. You say you don't "need" anything after 450whp like it's something simple to do.

My concern here is that you are talking about HUGE NUMBERS with SMALL TURBOS and don't even seem to grasp the utter basics of boosted cars or the Evo in general. I highly recommend that you take some time to really learn before pursuing some crazy goal of 400+whp.


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so if it isnt the tme what other turbo can i go with that would give me that same power with maintaining the quick spool responce??
It sounds like your searching for the Holy Grail of turbos, and it doesn't exist.
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Maybe consider maxing out the stock turbo first before you jump on the 400whp bandwagon. Try squeezing every last pony you can out of her and learn what is required to do it right, maintain the car, and not blow things up.
From there maybe consider a turbo upgrade that might include a Garrett GT3076R.
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Old 12-11-2006, 03:55 PM   #20 (permalink)
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thanks guys ur info really helped but i got another question i know it's retarted but what is the diffrence between the evo xi turbo and a tme 6.5?? any diffrence at all??..... and is thier any other turbo that can give me more power with still holding that quick spool??
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