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Old 07-17-2008, 02:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Installing the HKS 3037s

Well I have been contemplating getting a turbo upgrade such as an fpgreen for a while now and stumbled across a great deal for a 3037s HKS kit and an AMS intake manifold...

Current Mod List:

-HKS 272 intake and exhaust
-HKS cam gear (1)
-HKS head gasket 1.2mm
-HKS timing belt
-ARP headstuds
-ARP titanium retainers and springs
-Head intake port and polished
-HKS R spec intercooler with UICP/LICP
-Custom 3" turboback
-Exedy hyper series twin plate clutch
-HKS SSQV (adding recirc kit)
-Warlbro 255 LPH fuel pump
-High flow fuel rail
-RC 750cc injectors
-Boost controller

to be installed:
3037s kit shown in picture +AMS intake manifold... am hoping all above is enough to support the new turbo upgrade...





Compressor wheel trim 56,

1. Inducer 57mm

2. exduser 76.2



Comp housing:

1. Inlet 100mm

2. Outlet 50mm

3. 0.60 A/R



Turbine wheel

1. Trim 84mm

2. Inducer 60mm

3. Xdusor 55mm



Exhaust housing

1. Inlet flange gt25

2. Outlet gt30

3. 0.87 A/R


My only concern is the AMS intakemanifold giving off the CEL light since some of the sensors wont be plugged in...
If i were to remove those sensors from the original manifold and plug them in and secure them will this eliminate the light and not have some sort of negative effect?
Edit** found some info on it
http://www.amsperformance.com/instru...%209-12-06.doc
point number 23 states
23. Run new vacuum lines to FPR, BOV, boost controller, boost gauge. Vacuum routing varies from car to car. You cannot reuse the MAP differential sensor, FPR solenoid, and evap solenoid. You can however use a map sensor adaptor to rectify this situation. Also you can remount the fpr and evap solenoids. This will throw CELs with stock ecu. If you have a stand alone EMS, they are not needed.

Looking forward to hear some input

cheers.

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Old 07-17-2008, 03:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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What fuel will you be using? The 3037 is not commonly-used and hasn't really been used on Evos for a while, but it's still pretty good. It's also quite large, so I don't think 750cc injectors will be big enough. People use 750s on the stock turbo with 91oct, so I would suggest considering 1000s.





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I am using 98 octane here and from what I have been told its equivalent to 93-94 in the states.
Will contact the HKS dealer here and see if they have 1000cc injectors available
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I'm using 780's on my 50 trim which is barely smaller than the 3037 and I'm not even close to maxing out my injectors. Here or at sea level. I think he'll be alright but only his tuner will know for sure. Definitely don't need 1000cc's for a 30.
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^ Ill check to see if they are available and and also have a chat with my tuner... a buddy of mine is running a HTA35R and has 1000cc injectors...

I just confirmed we have 94 octane here
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That makes sense as most people do run 1000cc injectors on 35's...but that turbo is quite a bit bigger than a 3037.
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Actually, there are all sorts of combinations, so it depends, but generally the 3037 is considered the largest of the 3076 family. A 50-trim on 91 won't use up a whole lot of fuel, but this one will on 94oct, and what if he ever runs race gas?





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no reason to push it, just get bigger injectors and be on the safe side. I agree with warr. 1000's would fit nicely. But if you dont want to go too big, 880s would even be a better bet than the 750s.. IMO
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I run nothing but 93 octane (yes we have it in Cheyenne) and I've run 114 with 28lbs on many occasions and never ran out of injector. FYI.

My suggestion would to be stick with what you have and do some dyno pulls. You'll know within a few pulls if your injectors are reaching max. I think 880's would be perfect for this combo and they won't be such a pain to control with the stock ECU (as I see you haven't listed any EMS)
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^thanks for the input gents
Someone was recommending me i get a standalone called Gems for a real good price anyone use this before?
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Never heard of GEMS. Consider AEM EMS or Motec, but it really comes down to whether or not you have an expert tuner who knows one of those systems (including GEMS), and then you can decide.





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Also look in to Hyrdra...a lot of the Puerto Rican tuners use that with great success.
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Hdyra YUCK! only seen bad bad things from those, but of course that was with subies..... Go motec or AEM.
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Old 07-19-2008, 01:37 AM   #14 (permalink)
 
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Motec out here costs an arm and a leg...
like ridiculous prices
We have a F-con V pro licensed dealer here so will go with that...
tuner from Japan will be commig in to the shop and we will tune it on the dyno dnynamics in house dyno.
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Can't go wrong with F-Con...it's a fantastic product. Only downside is you have to go to a certified tuner to change the settings.
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