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Old 05-24-2008, 07:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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1st time....need some help

I've only been to the track a total of 3 times. Twice with my GSX and Once with my Evo. Last night was with the Evo and I was pretty dissapointed.

When I did my "stage 1" and had it tuned, I expected around 320-330whp and hit 329whp. So when I went to the drag stip I expected to be into the 12's, I wasn't. 13.194 and 13.126.
I kept wondering what was wrong, why wasn't I in the 12's. My ownly conclusion was maybe it was me. Maybe racing at the drag stip wasn't so easy. Luckily I was able to log my second run!

First off, here are my two runs.

1- 60' 1.976 1/8 8.484 mph 82.56 1/4 13.194 mph 105.96
2- 60' 1.910 1/8 8.365 mph 82.63 1/4 13.126 mph 101.77

1- I slipped the clutch a little and felt like it was a decent launch but the clutch smelled pretty bad for a while so I gave it some good time to cool down. I didn't use the rev limiter, I was a little nervous about the stock clutch. So I tried to take it easy the 1st launch.
--- Got to the line then waited 1 1/2 hours while they cleaned up oil on the track. I guess synthetic is nasty stuff for the track cause they couldn't get it cleaned and ended up shutting down the left lane
2- It was going to be the last run of the night so I thought I would go big (for me that is). I pegged it to the limiter (set at 5750 by JustDSM) and, well, I guess I would say I dumped it more so then a quick slip. It felt like a better launch then the first time and the clutch barley smelled at all afterward.

So on to my log on the 2nd run running 13.126:



Code:
TPS------------	RPM-------------	BATTERY-----	AccelEnrich	CoolantTemp	AIR TEMP----	TIMING------	AIRFLOW-------	InjPulseWidth	InjDutyCycle	WideBandAF	KNOCK-----	AFRMAP------	LOADCALC----	Load11bit4---	LoadMUT2Byte
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Sorry about all the decimals but this is the only way I got it to post right.

Sooo... looks like in 3rd gear I shifted at 6400rpms....too low and then in 4th gear I shifted at 6200rpms....and then finished in 5th gear.

I had no idea I was shifting that early.

I'm guessing that's why I'm not making it into the 12's.

I think I recall people saying they normally finish in 4th gear, is that the case?

Also, in first gear, when I launched (100% throttle), the rpms went to 7k then back to 5k increasing to 7100 where I shifted into 2nd. Is that the clutch slipping a little?

So does anyone see anything else other than I'm shifting too early?


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1) 329whp uncorrected on a Dynojet should be good for 110-112mph traps, which would be deep 12s normally and maybe mid-12s with mediocre driving. You were only trapping 101-106, though, which is very low and is one of the reasons you weren't getting 12s.

2) The 1.9 60's are very poor and are a big reason why you got stuck at 13.1. The launch is the most important part and is what effects your ET the most. You have to do your launch full out - you can't half-ass it, because if you do, then you kill the clutch the worst from slipping it too much (unless you bog, which hurts nothing, but totally kills the run). Launch off the limiter, but do a quick slip always - no dump.

3) Whoa, shifting wayyyy too early unless you're at 6000' altitude. You should shift around 7000-7100rpm in each gear, and you should NOT be shifting to 5th. What made you want to do that? This is also why your times and traps suffered. You aren't making nearly enough power to shift to 5th, so don't do that until you start hitting the rev limiter before the finish line in 4th at 8000 rpm.





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Ya, I blame the early shifting on my inexperience at the track. That's somthing I'll work on.

Considering that I'm on a stock clutch, does 5750 seem high enough to launch at?

What do you make of my rpm's going from 5800 at launch, rising to 7k, declining back to 5800 then picks back up to 7k when I shift into 2nd? Is that my tires spinning? Clutch slipping?


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1) Yes, 5750 is a very good spot normally, but the stock clutch can get overpowered with launch control launches and good power (300+whp/wtq). The problem is you can't just try a lower rpm, because then you'll either bog, or you'll have to do a long slip, which really roasts the clutch.

2) Yes, either the clutch is slipping initially (7k) then grabbing (5.8k), or your tires are doing the same. Sometimes, it's hard to tell which is which, so it helps to have an observer. Last night, we were all spinning all 4 out of the hole like nobody's business, so it was easy to tell it was tires and not clutch. It's not always that obvious, though. Another source of input is if you smell the nasty clutch smell. If so, it's probably slipping.





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I was going back through the log and it looks like maybe the clutch slipped a little going into 4th and then again into 5th. As soon as I hit 100% TPS the rpm's dipped just a little before going back up.

So if I get my shifts right I should be into the 12's?

Then if I get my 60' down I could be into the deep 12's?


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The clutch slipping would make rpms jump, not dip.

Yeah, you should be in the 12s now - probably even if you just stay in 4th and drive the same. With a 1.7-1.8 60' and shifting at 7k while staying in 4th, I'd expect 12.5-12.6 with 110-111 unless the clutch holds you back.





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What do you make of my rpm's going from 5800 at launch, rising to 7k, declining back to 5800 then picks back up to 7k when I shift into 2nd? Is that my tires spinning? Clutch slipping?
Hey Clay, correct me if I'm wrong, but this sounds to me like you're getting off the clutch a little too slowly.

Rev pings off from 5800 till your ecu sees that it's becoming loaded and takes the 2step off and you're still partially clutched so it jumps up to 7k pretty fast then drops once you finally get off it so it drops back to fully-loaded at 5800 once you're moving.

I'm no drag goru like Clay, but I do have around 50 successful launches under my belt. A few on the stocker and a few on the Ex-Twin. I used to do what you're experiencing (I think). It was just getting off it too slow. I'll try and get a vid up of my recent launches on my wrecked mobile >.< Should show you about how fast to get off it. It's pretty fast honestly. But I may be mistaken. (Clay?)


EDIT: My vids aren't that great when uploaded... They're from my phone and they look and sound fine on there so if you wanna see 'em I can send them to you via video-text. -> Shane.

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Yes, that can also cause it to not grab fully and slip some if you ride the clutch too long (especially on the stock clutch), but he would be the only one to know if that's happening - he has to feel it.





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Old 05-24-2008, 02:52 PM   #9 (permalink)
 
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Agreed.
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Old 05-24-2008, 02:57 PM   #10 (permalink)
 
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Your tune is a little off as well your too rich!!
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Old 05-24-2008, 03:53 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Your tune is a little off as well your too rich!!
I've sent Justin a note about that.

Tht last pulls on the highway the car was running 11.2~11.4 in 3rd gear. I noticed the log on the track showed in the 10's in 3rd gear.

A pull though starts at 2~3k rpm and goes to 7k, on the track I'm shifting gears and go into 3rd at ~5k. I thought maybe that would make a difference. Yes/No?

Actually to, when I dynoed it at 329whp it was still running AFR's in the high 10's and then Justing tweaked it some more and got it into the 11's so I would expect that I'm pushing a little more than 329whp now and this is all at only 22psi. I'm still waiting to get an aftermarket guage and JDM Map sensor and will turn up the boost.


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Old 05-24-2008, 08:11 PM   #12 (permalink)
 
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Being rich isn't a big concern. You had no knock, which is what I focused on, so even if you can gain some power with leaner AFRs on your current fuel (91?), it won't be a huge difference - not the difference in where you're trapping now (105+) and where you should be trapping (~112). If you were knocking, I would have mentioned the tune, but I think being a little rich is far down the list of things to focus on for now.





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You had no knock, which is what I focused on, so even if you can gain some power with leaner AFRs on your current fuel (91?)........
92 octane

Well till I get back on the track and fix my driving issues, I'll check for boost leaks (suggested by Justin) to see if that's why I'm running a little rich.

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Old 06-01-2008, 07:01 PM   #14 (permalink)
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One week later and I was back at the track.

First off, after my 1st trip to the track I checked for boost leaks and couldn't find any. Then I made made a pull on the highway to see if I was running as rich as my log from the track. In 3rd gear it was pretty well tunned in the 11's with just a slight dip in the 10's but only for a couple hundred rpm's.

Justin went ahead and tweaked it a little more anyways and and I made a pull with the new map on the way to the track. It was between 11.1 and 11.6 the entire pull.

Then I got on the track and made a run and AFR's are dipping back into the mid to high 10's.


Now my track times

1st 22psi 60' 1.798 1/8 8.565 @ 82.66mph 1/4 13.292 @107.57 (missed 2nd gear )
2nd 22psi 60' 1.977 1/8 8.637 @ 83.80mph 1/4 13.359 @ 107.78 (bogged at line)
3rd ....... missed 2nd sooo bad I won't even talk about my times .... 13.7
4th 22+psi 60' 1.952 1/8 8.490 @ 85.03mph 1/4 13.140 @ 109.13 (bogged at line)
5th 22+psi 60' 1.968 1/8 8.540 @ 81.66mph 1/4 13.207 @ 107.51 (bogged at line)

My 4th and 5th runs I had turned up the boost 1 1/4 turn on the MBC from previous setting (22psi) My gauge doesn't go higher so I don't know exactly what it was but my AFR's did lean out a little bit, still slightly in the 10's

As far as my 60', I felt like I launched the same each time. I would launch off the rev limiter set to 5750rpms and I got one good one and all the others just bogged down. The rpms went right from 5600-5800rpms down to 1700rpms and then it took off.

Do you think I should have the rev limiter set a little higher to get a more consistant launch? Or does the bogging just mean I'm dumping the clutch to much? Good thing was that my clutch never once smelled like the first week.

If only I hadn't missed 2nd gear on my first run with a 1.7 60', I think I may have been in the 12's.

As far as my shifting goes, I seemed to be shifting between 7200 and 7500rpms in all gears and was NOT going into 5th this time.


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If you are bogging when using the launch limiter at 5750, then it means you are letting the clutch out too fast. It should not drop all the way down to 1700 - it should stay above 4500 and should slingshot you out of the hole. You have to do a quickslip to get the drivetrain slack out before you release the clutch fully. The launch limiter setting is just fine...

Also, try shifting at 7000-7100rpm. 7500 is after the HP curve starts nosediving on a stock turbo USUALLY.





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