Then go with UTEC or Xede. I use just an S-AFC to run 12 flat in the hopes of breaking 11s, but we're talking no more than 350whp and that's only when on race gas with cranked boost and leaned out S-AFC settings. Since you want to go beyond this power level on the stock turbo, then you should probably get something more advanced.turbosmartevo8 said:I was looking at getting around the 350-425 mark for now. later (once car is paid off and i can afford it) was looking at maybe doing more. I would love to have a 550awhp evo ruling the track and streets with full suspension set up, standalone, and all the good stuff but i cant afford it now haha. What if any piggy back set ups would you recomend?
Thanks,that is definatley more realistic then, i didnt realize the times you would run on that amount of power. What would be some mods (general or specific) that would help me reach that goal?? any suggestions or experiences?If your more realistic goals are 325-350whp, which is good for 11.9-12.1 in the 1/4-mile with trap speed of 113-115, then the S-AFC is sufficient and very cheap...
I haven't personally used the ECU+, but I do know a few things:djmikeymike said:
Warrtalon said:I haven't personally used the ECU+, but I do know a few things:
1) It's one step above the S-AFC, since it can control timing, although it doesn't control ACTUAL timing, but rather additions or subtractions from base ECU timing. Hey, that's better than the S-AFC's indirect effect on timing.
2) It can be used quite well for making 400+whp, because I have a friend locally who just went [email protected] on his 03 with White Rabbit, 280s, Meth, and Ecu+ in 85 degree weather. He is not even using race gas...just 93oct + meth. I'm quite certain that when he gets some 60-degree weather, he will hit 119mph. This is the same guy who dyno'd at 360 on Buschur's new Mustang Dyno...
I have no hands-on experience with anything besides the S-AFC, but from what I hear, the ECU+ is one step above the S-AFC, while being a step below the others you listed.djmikeymike said:I would like to know what differences are between ECU+, Xede, Utec.......so far i like what i hear about the ECU+, but that is comeing from a guy that doesn't know sh*t about tuning.
thanks for the insight Warrtalon
Yes, you can, but you're going to have to get the proper supporting equipment (wideband, egt, and logging device) as well as learn how to properly tune yourself. The S-AFC is not a toy and is not a joke, but it is very simple to configure. It's just not simple to understand all of the concepts that come into play when tuning the S-AFC for AFR and indirect timing...turbosmartevo8 said:Thanks for all the input.. from what i have heard from you guys and just general research...im probably just gonna go with the safc...thats not a bad route though is it? i can still get to about 350-375 whp with that and some other goodies right???